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Can You Invest Your House Down Payment In The Stock Market?

Jordan has agreed to help out the crack writing staff here at Four Pillars by contributing the occasional post.  He is a young guy living and working from home in Vancouver with his wife and 2 young kids.  Jordan is a computer geek at heart and last year discovered he also had a hidden passion for personal finance with the goal of “early financial retirement”. He will write about various financial ideas and situations that he comes across and share resources and useful tools.

When is it ok to invest your house down payment in the stock market?  I’ve always understood that a house down payment shouldn’t be invested in the stock market.  Actually the rule probably is if the time horizon of your money is less than 5 years, it shouldn’t be in the stock market. In fact if someone asked me for my advice I would say exactly the same thing. But I wanted to explore and research the idea for myself, so here is a new page in the Amateur Investor’s Manifesto.

Stock markets are volatile

The logic behind this rule is that the stock market is very volatile over short periods of time. As we clearly saw last year someone fully invested in the market could have easily lost 50%. Over the long term it’s much easier to predict a positive outcome.   As you’ll often hear – “the market always goes up” and “there has never been a 10 year period on the S&P 500 that went down”.  Unfortunately after last year that is no longer true.

So the alternative is to invest in a GIC or high interest savings account which is protected up to $100,000 per account / per bank or $200,000 for couples. The chance of a bank failure seems extremely low in Canada, the more real risk is high inflation eating away your money’s buying power.

Adding equities to your house down payment

What about a short term diversified portfolio? Shouldn’t it be possible to increase the return by taking on a small amount of risk? Let’s see what would have happened to an 80% GIC / 20% stock portfolio that’s invested for just one year. The asset allocation is the ultra conservative portfolio recommended in “The Smartest Investment Book You’ll Ever Read”.  In my test scenarios I’ll be using a $100,000 down payment.

* 80% / $80,000 ING Direct 1 Year GIC
* 10% / $10,000 iShares S&P 500 Index (XSP)
* 8% / $8,000 iShares MSCI EAFE Index (XIN)

* 2% / $2,000 iShares Canadian Index (XIC)

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Year

GIC

Stocks

Inflation

80/20 Return

80/20 Result

Safe Return

Safe Result

Diff

2008

4.10%

-37.50%

-2.00%

(6,220)

93,780

2,100

102,100

-8.1%

2007

3.50%

4.00%

-1.97%

1,630

101,630

1,530

101,530

0.1%

2006

2.75%

14.90%

-2.47%

2,710

102,710

280

100,280

2.4%

2005

2.50%

9.10%

-1.39%

2,430

102,430

1,110

101,110

1.3%

2004

2.50%

6.30%

-1.99%

1,270

101,270

510

100,510

0.8%

2003

2.75%

7.60%

-2.42%

1,300

101,300

330

100,330

1.0%

2002

2.75%

-21.80%

-1.58%

(3,740)

96,260

1,170

101,170

-4.9%

Inflation is the Core CPI from the Bank of Canada which actually excludes inflation of housing prices, but it does show the buying power of your savings goes down over time.

I wasn’t able to look up the GIC rates for 2002-2006 so I used ING’s historic high interest savings account rate for the beginning of each year which is usually just a bit lower then a GIC.

Oout of the 7 years tested the worst result was underperformance of $8,320, or 8.1%.  The best result was $2,430 of overperformance in 2006. So a slight loss isn’t much fun but not the end of the world.  The gains aren’t huge, but they do help a bit. I think with careful consideration to exactly what your goal is and your risk tolerance it is possible to invest for short term goals because on average the market goes up.

Dealing with a short fall

You basically have 4 options if you come up short, which is very likely for short term investing:

  1. You will need to adjust your goal such as delaying when you buy a house or looking for a lower cost house.
  2. Make up the short fall with income cash flow by redirecting savings before the absolute last moment possible or paying for expenses (ie tuition) as they come up
  3. Borrowing the short fall from another savings account such as a non-RRSP retirement account.
  4. Borrow more money on the mortgage or open up a line of credit.

Can you fully invest your down payment in the stock market?

Yes, in certain situations I believe so.  If you have enough savings outside of your short term savings goal to replenish it if there is a catastrophic loss then you should be able to be fully invested. If you realize the worst annual return possible is -50%, and your short term goal is $100,000 then you need to have an additional 52% ($52,000) in guaranteed savings to cover the loss & estimated inflation. If that other money is also fully invested then you would need to have 104% more ($104,000). This will help you ensure you would end up with $100,000 after a 50% drop.

It definitely wouldn’t be much fun seeing $100,000 of retirement savings vanish just so you could afford your $100,000 down payment, but it’s not really any more risky if you would have been fully invested anyways. The flip side is if you are lucky and there is a bull market, you will either have a larger down payment or you can add the extra money into your already larger retirement account. If you had been invested in 2006 you would have had your $100,000 down payment and your retirement account would have risen to $124,860 (+24%) instead of $112,430.

It’s worth repeating: I would still not recommend investing a house down payment in the stock market. It’s just not a good idea for most people. If you do decide to do it then: know your risks, be conservative, make sure you can fully cover a short fall and hang on for a bumpy ride.

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RBC Direct Discount Brokerage Review

I recently moved my investment accounts from Questrade to RBC Direct in order to take advantage of the RBC 1% rebate deal so I thought it would only be fitting to do a review of their services.

Who are they?

RBC Direct is the discount brokerage arm of the Royal Bank of Canada which is the biggest Canadian bank.

Good things about RBC Direct

I like the trading platform – it looks nice, easy to use and is well designed.  There is also access to analysts reports etc.  It does the job.

If you would like to compare all the different Canadian discount brokerages, check out the Canadian discount brokerage comparison.

Bad things about RBC Direct

Everything else.  🙂

Fees – ridiculous fees in my opinion.  $10/trade is not bad for a passive investor but why anyone would pay $29 a trade is beyond my comprehension.  I’ve outlined the fees at the bottom of the post.

No electronic money movement
unless you have a RBC bank account.  This is the stupidest thing about RBC – yes, I understand they want to ‘bundle’ all their services but forcing investors to open up new accounts to use their discount brokerage when most of the other discount brokerages offer excellent electronic money movement options is just bad business.  Get out of the stone age RBC!

In order for me to put money into the account, I have to write a cheque and mail it to them.  If I want to remove any money – I have to pay $10 for a cheque to be written.  My plan is to keep all cash in the account until next year when I can move back to Questrade and then withdraw it electronically.  The most annoying part of this is that when I looked into the 1% deal – a customer service rep told me on the phone that I could do electronic money movement which turned out to be false.  Speaking of customer service….

Bad Customer service

I won’t bore you will the multitude of issues I’ve encountered with RBC but suffice to say that I think their computer system was probably build sometime in the 20’s which makes it very hard for the customer service reps to do their job.

Most of the reps are pretty good although one time I called without an account number and the rep told me it was “very hard to look up an account without the account number”.  I challenged him on it and he somehow was able to find the account immediately just using my name.  Kudos jackass…kudos.

Conclusion

I can’t really recommend RBC Direct since I really don’t like them and can’t wait to collect my 1% and go back to Questrade.  However, if you already do your banking with RBC and have a $100,000 in assets then they are not a bad choice.  If you don’t meet those criteria then look elsewhere.

Trading Fees

  • $28.95 per trade unless you have $100,000 in household assets at RBC Direct or complete more than 30 trades per quarter.
  • $9.95 if you have $100,000 in household assets at RBC Direct.
  • $9.95 if you make between 30 and 149 trades per quarter.
  • $6.95 for those super-active traders who do at least 150 trades per quarter.

Annual account fees

  • No fees if total client assets are $15,000 or more.
  • If assets are less than $15,000, a $25 quarterly fee will be charged regardless of the number of accounts.  Can be avoided by making three or more trades in all accounts

Other discount brokerages reviews

Questrade discount brokerage review.

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Free Stock Trend Analysis By Email

This service by INO offers a free trend analysis of any stock you desire to help you with your technical analysis. All Canadian and American stocks are eligible – all you have to do is enter the stock symbol or name, your first name (Homer?) and an email – that’s it!  No cost or obligation.

I thought it would be fun to try it out on one of my latest purchases (BCE) and see what it says.  According to the email I got – there is a strong downtrend in place (no kidding) and the last price is below the 20 day moving average.

Given that the BCE deal just fell through – this probably wasn’t the best stock to do submit for analysis, but it was fun to see what the service would provide.

You can sign up to receive stock trend analysis on as many stocks as you like.  A stock trend analysis email will arrive in your inbox after every trading day.

Also – check out my write up on free stock trading videos.

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Comparing Market Cap ETF vs Dividend ETF – How Much Duplication?

I had a reader question the other day where they mentioned buying both XIU (iShares Cdn Large Cap 60 ETF) and XDV (iShares Cdn Dividend Index Fund ETF) for their portfolio.  I had responded that although I wasn’t sure, I suspected that might be a lot of duplication in the two funds since XIU has all the biggest public Canadian companies – a lot of which are good dividend stocks and would probably also be in XDV.

Duplicate holdings is a common problem in mutual funds – especially in a market like Canada where there are not a lot of different companies to buy for the larger funds.

I decided to do a bit research and find out if there was as much duplication as I suspected in the two funds.  The question I want to answer is if it is worthwhile to own both funds for diversification purposes or will just one do.

Number of companies in common

The first and simplest criteria was how many companies are in both ETFs.  This isn’t necessarily all that meaningful since one ETF might have a lot of XYZ company whereas the other might only have a small holding.

XIU 60 has 61 holdings (can’t they count?), XDV dividend has 31 holdings, there are 15 companies that they have in common.  This seems like quite a bit since it means that half of the companies in the dividend ETF are also in the XIU ETF.

Amount of market cap in common

What I did here is take the companies that are in both ETFs and compare the percentage holdings and add up the smaller number.  For example if CIBC was 9% of the dividend fund and 5% of the XIU then I counted that as 5% in common (by market cap).   This totalled up to 31%.  This was a smaller number than I expected which means that a good portion of the dividend ETF is not represented in the XIU 60.

Measuring correlation between the ETFs

The next test I did, which should have been the first and only test since it is the only one that has any real meaning is to measure the amount of correlation between the two ETFs.   Correlation is a measure of the relationship between the prices of the two ETFs.

A measure of 1 means that they always move in price exactly the same way, a measure of 0 means they are completely uncorrelated and a measure of -1 means they always move in price in exactly the opposite direction.  One of the main concepts behind building a portfolio is to try to find different assets that are not correlated with each other.

To accomplish this I needed some historical price data which I managed to find at Yahoo Finance.  To figure out the correlation I used the Excel correl function (is there anything Excel can’t do?).  XDV dividend has only been around since the end of 2005 so the data is only for a bit less than 4 years.  Not being a stats guy I’m not sure if this is a long enough period to be meaningful but it’s all I’ve got.  Regardless, the correlation “r” number was 0.72 which implies some benefit for diversification but not a whole lot.

Performance

The last thing I looked at was performance.  Since the time period is fairly short I’m not looking to see which ETF did better but rather to look at the difference in performance.  Ishares.ca website has a handy calculator just for this purpose.  I choose the last 3 years since the next category was 5 years which wouldn’t work for XDV dividend.

3 year total return

  • XIU Large Cap 60 = -12.98%
  • XDV Dividend = -18.19%

From what I’ve read the XDV dividend has a higher ratio of financials than the XIU 60 which is probably one of the reasons for the big performance difference.  The XDV dividend has a higher mer (0.5%) than XIU 60 (0.17%) which would account for about 1% of the 5% difference.

Conclusion

I looked at 4 categories to see how different XIU and XDV are:

  • Similar companies – half of the XDV dividend companies are in XIU.
  • Similar companies by stock market capitalization – 31% of the companies market cap are in both ETFs.
  • Correlation – over the last 4 years the correlation is 0.72.
  • Performance – the two ETFs were about 5% off in terms of total performance over 3 years.

What does it all mean?   Hard to say – there are much better ways to diversify your portfolio – REITs, small cap, foreign holdings would likely all have correlations that are less than 0.72.  I’m also not crazy about the higher mer of the dividend ETF.

I think if you want to have most of your equity in Canada then buying partially overlapping ETFs might be the only way to diversify without getting into individual stocks.  Personally I like to be diversified over the whole world so for me, the XIU Large Cap 60 by itself is good enough – in my case adding XDV would not increase my diversification enough to make the higher mer worthwhile.  XIC (TSX 300) is also a good choice.

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Best Questrade Review 2020 – Plus $50 Free Promo Code

Who is Questrade?

Questrade discount brokerage is an independent (not owned by a bank) brokerage which has been in business since 1999.  Their office is in Toronto, but anyone who is a resident of Canada can trade with them.

Good things about Questrade

  • Cheap, cheap trades.  $4.95 trading fees for trades with 495 shares or less – maximum $9.95 fees for trades with more shares.  ETFs can be bought for free!
  • Ability to hold US$ in rrsp account.  If you sell a US$ security in a rrsp – almost every other broker charges 1% ore more to switch it to CDN$ and then another 1%+ to go back to US$.
  • Good trading platform.  I only used the free platform (Webtrader) and I really liked it.  It is very simple and doesn’t have all the bells and whistles that other platforms have.  Real time quotes is the only feature I need.
  • Excellent service.  I had no problems setting up accounts and doing trades, moving money etc.  They have an online chat function which I never used but apparently is pretty good.  I either phoned (very quick response) or sent email.  Both methods worked fine for me.
  • No account fees whatsoever.
  • Low balances. Minimum account balance to open an account is $1000 and you only need $250 to keep an account open.
  • All account types available.  Open, RRSP, RESP, RRIF – you name it, they have it.
  • Mutual funds – they will rebate up to 1% of the management fee back to the investor.  Read more about the Questrade mutual fund rebate.

If you would like to compare all the different Canadian discount brokerages, check out the Canadian discount brokerage comparison.

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The Death Of Index Investing And Other Silly Stats

I recently came across yet another post on investing which goes something along the lines of “If you invested 10 years ago in the Dow then you would have earned exactly nothing in that time”.  I hate to pick on any one blogger since I’ve read these articles all across the blogosphere but this one is the latest and he also had the temerity to tie in poor index performance with the death of index investing.  Of course all the stock pickers out there ALWAYS beat the index so poor market are no concern to them…!  I want to emphasise that Jacob at Extreme Early Retirement does a great job with his blog and I don’t want to sound like I don’t like the blog – just that one post!  🙂

What about the dividends?

Usually these posts look at the point value of an index at a previous time, say 10 years ago and compare it to the present index point value.  This is incorrect because they are missing dividends.  Published index returns always included reinvested dividends and any type of analysis on index performance should always include the same.  Admittedly, if you are looking at a 10 year period where the index point value hasn’t changed, the addition of dividends isn’t going to change the argument very much but it should be there.

Selectivity of stats

Why is it that all the articles always pick the worst peak to trough period to illustrate their rather suspect point that maybe equity investing or even index investing is evil?  Have you ever heard of such a person who invests all their money on the same day the markets peak and then doesn’t invest any more?  Doesn’t seem all that likely to me.  Most people invest their money over time because that’s how they earn it, then save it, then invest it.  Picking one particular time period to prove or disprove a theory is like measuring your gas mileage one mile at a time and then using the best or worst mile to prove your point.

Investment performance

And what about active stock pickers – did they all do better than the indexers over that period?  Or did some of them do better, some of them the same, and some of them didn’t do as well?  I’ve asked many bloggers and non-bloggers who claim they can beat the index by picking their own stocks to prove it – measure their performance and let me know if they did better than the market or not.  You know what?  Not one of them has ever shown that they can beat the market – oddly enough, most of them don’t even bother to measure their performance.  How can someone who doesn’t even know how their own investment method measures up criticize someone else’s?

What is average?

One of the criticisms of indexing is that you will only achieve “average” results – again – will I do better by randomly picking stocks or paying someone lots of money to pick them for me?  One thing about indexing is that you will get the index return minus a very small fee – you will never beat the index but more importantly you won’t underperform the index (except for the small fee) either.  Active pickers can certainly outperform the market but they can also underperform as well – sometimes by a huge margin.  I like making money – if I thought it was possible for me to beat the market then you can rest assured that I would give it my best effort.

Dividends, smividends

Ok – one more rant… I like getting dividends just as much as the next investor but I really think there is an over-weighting on the importance of dividends in the blogosphere.  Yes, the idea of living off your dividends is nice but investment performance measures total return which is capital gains plus any reinvested dividends and interest payments.  That’s it.  I don’t care in what form the company pays out in the end – if the total return is higher, then its a better investment.  If that includes dividends, fine – if not, that’s fine too.

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Free Educational Stock Trading Videos

I recently found out about a company (INO) that offers free stock trading videos online.  While I’m not into active trading anymore (at one time I had a big interest in it), there are plenty of investors out there who love to trade stocks.

INO offers free online videos which are basically educational trading strategy lessons for someone who wants to trade stocks.  This particular link leads to four different videos by trading experts who give up some of their secrets.

First you go to an intro page where you must register to watch the videos – this involves a basic registration – no banking info or credit info is required.

The four videos available:

Market Wizard InsightsJack Schwager explains the traits and behaviour patterns that supertraders have in common.

Applying Technical – 90 minute video – verteran market analyst John Murphy explains how he looks at the markets.

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Will A Big Canadian Bank Fail?

I have to admit that while I haven’t been bothered by the falling markets, today I found it a bit tough for some reason.  It seems like every day the market falls and if it’s only 1 or 2% then that is ok.  Well today the Canadian market fell 9%.  9%!!! That would be a bad year by itself and it was only one crappy trading day of many crappy trading days.  The worst part was the banks – they have been pummelled this year and today the big 5 went down by an average of almost 13%.  13%!!! Very depressing I thinks.

Now, I haven’t gone all anti-Bernstein or anything – I have no plans to sell any equities under any circumstance.  What my concern is now is will one of the big Canadian banks fail? Here are some things I’m worried about:

Canadian banks own bad US mortgages as well

Our banking system was recently named as the best in the world.  Our lending standards were much stricter than the US banks so everything should be ok?  The only problem is that from what I understand, the US banks got in trouble buying investments containing bad mortgages – it wasn’t necessarily all just from writing bad mortgages themselves.

The problem is that the Canadian banks also bought these same investments and have been slowly taking related writedowns all the while not talking about what their real exposure is.  These investments were enough to bring down some big US banks so why can’t they bring down a Canadian bank?  Yes, the Canadian banks have good business models so did Washington Mutual and Wachovia.  They had customers, lots of assets – a normal bank in other words – but they lost it all on the investment side.

A bad dividend trend

The thing that concerns me is that the US banks I mentioned all paid a dividend at one time.  When the stock went down the dividend yield went up…and up and up and up.  First there was a dividend cut and then the bank went out of business.

The dividend yields for the Canadian banks in order are:

  • BMO 8.4%
  • CIBC 7.3%
  • BNS 5.9%
  • Royal 5.6%
  • TD 5.4%

The ones that really stand out for me are BMO and CIBC – 7 or 8% dividends that don’t pay return of capital are too high.  Either they are mispriced or investors are expecting a dividend cut.  Now we haven’t seen the double digit dividend yields enjoyed by the US banks before they went belly up but the yield on BMO and CIBC has roughly doubled over the last year or so.

Summary

I really hope that none of the banks go under but I am concerned about it.  Can anyone please tell me that I’m wrong??