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  1. plonkee
    June 18, 2008

    It could be worse, don’t think for a minute that if they stopped this sort of program you’d be paying anything other than an excessive amount of tax. I’ve never heard of a politician that couldn’t find things to spend taxpayers’ money on.

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  2. WhereDoesAllMyMoneyGo.com
    June 18, 2008

    The EI program has traditionally run at an egregious surplus (I think 6 billion per year?), but the recent budget has addressed this by ensuring the program only runs a *certain* surplus. I forget the exact number. There have been many complaints that it has been too hard to qualify for – which is a double edged sword since there are many who try to cheat the system, but there are many who have legitimate claim who are denied as well.

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  3. Leslie
    June 18, 2008

    From past experience: if you have a legitimate reason for the delay in applying for EI benefits, try asking for the claim to be backdated to the date of termination. You have nothing to lose and may get an assessor in a generous mood. Legitimate reasons don’t include being on vacation or didn’t get around to it … it does include illness (dr note), or employer delayed giving you the ROE. With maternity benefits, an early delivery that starts your leave immediately and keeps you from filing would be an excellent reason. You don’t have to wait for the ROE to apply for benefits–you can go from work right to the Service Canada office, and just indicate ROE to follow when received. Your claim clock starts on the date of filing–all claims have a waiting period in which no benefit is paid. The purpose of the waiting period is to encourage those laid off to find another job quickly and avoid unnecessary claim processing where there might be only a week between ending & finishing a job. Why this waiting period applies to maternity claims is beyond me.

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  4. Nobleea
    June 18, 2008

    “The way this benefit works is that the mother can get up to 50 weeks of benefits (if she qualifies) which is a combination of maternity and paternity leave. Dad is eligible for up to 35 weeks of benefits but the maximum number of weeks paid for a couple is 50. Two things to note:

    1. When the mother applies, she only applies once and that will be for both parental and maternity leave benefits.
    2. Although the EI benefits have to be shared within a couple, the time off allowed does not have to shared. The mother can legally take 52 weeks off and the father can take 37 weeks off and there is no ?couple maximum?.”

    You’ve got me a bit confused. If I understand correctly, mother can take a year off while ‘keeping’ her job and father can take 37 weeks while ‘keeping’ his job. BUT, only a total of 50 weeks combined will be paid EI? So the rest of the time would be unpaid. And the 37 weeks for dad and 52 weeks for mom don’t have to be at the same time.

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  5. telly
    June 18, 2008

    Can a dad take say 46 weeks, & mom 4? While it’s probably not very common, it may make sense if the mom is the higher income earner.

    WRT taxes, working in the US, I can tell you that EI & CPP deductions are significantly lower than Social Security (6.2% of gross, capped at $102k) and Medicare (1.45% of gross, no cap) deductions in the U.S. Oddly enough, there are fears that SS program will not be able to pay current benefits by 2041 while CCP seems to be fully funded and going strong.

    In other words, don’t complain. 😉

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  6. squawkfox
    June 18, 2008

    “I am a repeat baby-maker”

    LOL
    Best line ever.

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  7. Jerry
    June 19, 2008

    I agree with squawkfox. =)

    In addition, Employment Insurance sounds like a dream to me, as a baby-making (well, ONE baby made) American. The abysmal amount of time my wife could take off after having our daughter was one of the biggest things to lead to her post-partum stress. It was awful.

    OK, maybe EI doesn’t make Canada as nice for new parents as, say, Sweden… but it’s gotta help.

    Jerry
    http://www.leads4insurance.com

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  8. Four Pillars
    June 29, 2008

    Plonkee – you got that right.

    WDAMMG – I personally don’t think it’s too hard to qualify for EI. I would imagine that someone who only works a couple of months at a time wouldn’t qualify but in that case, it’s probably time for a new career anyways.

    Leslie – great point, it never hurts to ask. Filing the claim without the ROE is the right thing to do. They will also pay benefits without the ROE if you can show that you tried to get it and can prove your income.

    Nobleea – you are correct – the 52 weeks for Mom and 37 weeks for Dad are just the amount of time off they can take. Only 50 weeks of EI will be paid in total. The time off doesn’t have to concurrant but I *think* you have to start the time off before the child turns 1.

    Telly – You can take any combination you want.

    Squawk – thanks! 🙂

    Jerry – sorry to hear about the stress. The maternity leave system is pretty good here in Canada.

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  9. ht
    September 8, 2008

    a mother can take 37 weeks same as the father…. but the mother is also entitled to 15 weeks maternity so that she can rest after birth and prior too birth which would give the mother at total of 52 weeks. She is also entitled to 15 weeks sick leave.

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